1 . أَخْبَرَنَا الْحَسَنُ بْنُ الْقَاسِمِ الطِّهْرَانِيُّ، قَالَ: سَأَلْتُ الْمَنْصُورَ أَيَّدَهُ اللَّهُ تَعَالَى عَنِ الْمَصْرَفِ، يُودِعُهُ الرَّجُلُ مِنْ مَالِهِ مِائَةَ دِينَارٍ لِيَعْمَلَ بِهِ إِلَى أَجَلٍ مُسَمًّى، عَلَى أَنْ يُؤْتِيَهُ عِشْرِينَ دِينَارًا مِنَ الرِّبْحِ، قَالَ: هَذَا وَاللَّهِ رِبًا فَاجْتَنِبُوهُ، قُلْتُ: إِنَّهُمْ يَقُولُونَ مَا هُوَ إِلَّا مُضَارَبَةٌ! قَالَ: كَذَبُوا، أَلَمْ يَعْلَمُوا أَنَّ رِبْحَ الْمُضَارَبَةِ غَيْرُ مَعْلُومٍ وَلَا مَشْرُوطٍ؟!
Translation of the saying:
Hasan ibn Qasim al-Tehrani informed us, he said: I asked Mansoor, may God Almighty support him, about the bank, where a man puts one hundred dinars of his money in it to work with it for a specified period, on condition that it pays him twenty dinars of interest. He said: “I swear to God, this is usury, so avoid it!” I said: “They say it is nothing but mudarabah[1]!” He said: “They are lying! Do they not know the interest of mudarabah is neither known nor conditional?!”
2 . أَخْبَرَنَا حَيْدَرُ بْنُ سَعِيدٍ الْمُوسَوِيُّ، قَالَ: سَأَلْتُ الْمَنْصُورَ أَيَّدَهُ اللَّهُ تَعَالَى عَنِ الْبَنْكِ، فَقَالَ: سَلْ غَيْرِي! سَلْ هَؤُلَاءِ الْفُقَهَاءَ! قُلْتُ: لِمَاذَا؟! قَالَ: لِأَنَّكَ فِي سَعَةٍ مَا لَمْ تَسْأَلْنِي، فَإِذَا سَأَلْتَنِي أَخْبَرْتُكَ بِالْحَقِّ فَضَاقَتْ عَلَيْكَ! أَمَا سَمِعْتَ قَوْلَهُ تَعَالَى: ﴿لَا تَسْأَلُوا عَنْ أَشْيَاءَ إِنْ تُبْدَ لَكُمْ تَسُؤْكُمْ﴾[2]؟! قُلْتُ: أَخْبِرْنِي بِالْحَقِّ، وَلَا تَرُدَّنِي إِلَى حُفْنَةٍ مِنَ الْقَرَاصِنَةِ! قَالَ: لَا بَنْكَ فِي الْإِسْلَامِ، إِنَّمَا هُوَ وَدِيعَةٌ وَقَرْضٌ وَمُضَارَبَةٌ، وَمَنْ عَامَلَ الْبَنْكَ لَمْ يَسْلَمْ مِنَ الرِّبَا، قُلْتُ: إِلَّا مَنْ أَكْرَهَهُ ظَالِمٌ؟ قَالَ: إِلَّا مَنْ أَكْرَهَهُ ظَالِمٌ، ثُمَّ قَالَ: أَلَكَ مَالٌ؟ قُلْتُ: نَعَمْ، وَأَتَطَبَّبُ، قَالَ: لَوْ أَلْقَيْتَ مَالَكَ فِي الْبَحْرِ خَيْرٌ مِنْ أَنْ تَضَعَهُ فِي الْبَنْكِ، لِأَنَّهُ كِيسُ الظَّلَمَةِ، وَإِنَّ كِيسَهُمْ كَبَيْتِ الْعَنْكَبُوتِ، يَتَّصِلُ بَعْضُهُ بِبَعْضٍ، حَتَّى يَنْتَهِيَ إِلَى الْمَرْكَزِ! قُلْتُ: وَمَا الْمَرْكَزُ؟! قَالَ: كِيسُ الْأَعْوَرِ!
Translation of the saying:
Haydar ibn Sa‘id al-Musawi informed us, he said: I asked Mansoor, may God Almighty support him, about the bank, so he said: “Ask someone else! Ask these jurists!” I said: “Why?!” He said: “Because as long as you do not ask me, you will have the liberty, then, when you ask me, I will inform you of the truth, so it will become tough for you! Have you not heard the words of God Almighty that has said: ‘Do not ask about things that if disclosed to you, may displease you’?!” I said: “Inform me of the truth, and do not refer me to a group of thieves and bandits!” He said: “There is no bank in Islam; there is only trust, borrowing, and mudarabah, and whoever transacts with the bank is not safe from usury!” I said: “Except for one who is forced by an oppressor (e.g., for necessary administrative works)?” He said: “Except for one who is forced by an oppressor!” Then he said: “Do you have any wealth?” I said: “Yes, I practice medicine!” He said: “If you throw your wealth into the sea, it is better than putting it in the bank; because it is the sack of oppressors, and their sack is like a spider’s web, some of which are connected to some others until they lead to the center!” I said: “What is the center?!” He said: “The sack of the one-eyed (man)!”
3 . أَخْبَرَنَا عَبْدُ اللَّهِ بْنُ حَبِيبٍ الطَّبَرِيُّ، قَالَ: كَسَبْتُ مَالًا مِنْ تِجَارَةٍ، فَأَرَدْتُ أَنْ أَضَعَهُ فِي بَنْكٍ، فَاسْتَشَرْتُ الْمَنْصُورَ فِي ذَلِكَ، فَقَالَ: لَوْ أَحْرَقْتَ مَالَكَ خَيْرٌ مِنْ أَنْ تَضَعَهُ فِي الْبَنْكِ! قُلْتُ: لِمَاذَا؟! قَالَ: لِأَنَّهُ مِنْ خَزَائِنِ الشَّيْطَانِ!
Translation of the saying:
Abdullah ibn Habib al-Tabari informed us, he said: I earned money from trade and wanted to put it in a bank, so I consulted Mansoor about it, so he said: “If you burn your money, it is better than putting it in the bank!” I said: “Why?!” He said: “Because it is one of Satan’s strongrooms!”
Explanation of the saying:
To read an explanation of these important sayings, refer to Q&A 75.
